发信人: happyzhb (~手指疼~), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 俺也来 讨论一下学生物的出路问题
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Fri Feb 20 16:45:46 2004) WWW-POST

【 在 pello (痛并快乐者) 的大作中提到: 】
: Yeah, I remember in high school I was having such a difficult time trying to
: memorize all the sin cos tg equations(which I do not remember much now),
when
: I realized suddenly that what I am learning may not have better immediate
: effect than those people who sell cold drinks under hot blazing sun, at
least
: they cool people down in an instant.
: well, I have yet to discover what good those equations do to me, but they
are
: surely one step contributing to where I am now...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~totally agree!

great post! normal word, a lot to think!

:
: 【 在 forrestgump (阿甘) 的大作中提到: 】
: : well, then how do u define "useful"? :)
: : my opinion, research and science is the ultimate driving force to the
: : evolution of the human race and our society. in that sense, research and
: : science is more than just "personal satisfaction" for individuals.
instead,
: it
: : is THE most important thing for us all as human beings. we are here today,
: : because we did our research and we made progresses.
: : however, evolution is such a long-term thing, that in any immediate
future,
: it
: : is seemingly contradictory to the "human nature": profit-seeking, and is
: : therefore seemingly "useless" to almost all of us.
: : so, back to the question: how can we prove, or can we practically prove at
: : all, that research, or more specifically, bio-research is "useful"?
: :
: :
: : 【 在 oil (brother) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : 【 在 BMW (宝马雕车 day day up 10) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : : 事实是明摆的。每生产100个生物PhD，只有30个搏后会找到正式工作。所以解决
的
: : : : 办法是:
: : : : 1. 减少PhD的产量。
: : : : 2。增加正式工作的数量。
: : : : 这两种可能多不会在短时间内对我们找到工作有何帮助，因为原先已有
: : : : 相当一部分资深postdoc在就业市场上挣扎。
: : : :
: : : : 上贼船容易，下贼船难呀。我们中的大部分看来注定是要成苦力了。
: : : :
: : : : 周末更一个老前辈聊了聊，看来Incyte大规模裁掉bioinformatican所言不虚。
这
: : : : 些原来玩genomics的，如Incyte, HGS, Celera都转过来玩小分子了。
: : : :
: : : : 学生物的有啥用？
: : : :
: : : this is the final question.
: : :
: : : If we can not show what we learned is useful,it's nonsense at all,
: : : just like those old time people recite the "Four book and Five Bibles".
: : : no difference
: : :
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